Least walking between Ely and Marsham Street in Victoria

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Dear combined minds of uk.railway,

If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?

I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.

So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.

So, please all chip in with your thoughts

[Certes]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Can you get to Elephant and Castle with same-platform changes at smaller
stations, then take a C10 bus? I've never done this, and it may involve
more walking than your original ideas. A short taxi ride may be best.

[Tweed]

Post by Certes

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Can you get to Elephant and Castle with same-platform changes at smaller
stations, then take a C10 bus? I've never done this, and it may involve
more walking than your original ideas. A short taxi ride may be best.

Black cab for the London bit?

[Certes]

Post by Tweed

Post by Certes

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Can you get to Elephant and Castle with same-platform changes at smaller
stations, then take a C10 bus? I've never done this, and it may involve
more walking than your original ideas. A short taxi ride may be best.

Black cab for the London bit?

Yes, that was the idea: a cab from King's Cross if the budget permits.
The convoluted routes above assume that only public transport is used.

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Post by Certes

Post by Tweed

Post by Certes

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Can you get to Elephant and Castle with same-platform changes at smaller
stations, then take a C10 bus? I've never done this, and it may involve
more walking than your original ideas. A short taxi ride may be best.

Black cab for the London bit?

Yes, that was the idea: a cab from King's Cross if the budget permits.
The convoluted routes above assume that only public transport is used.

I try to keep the taxi cost down to a minimum. The incremental cost of
a travelcard is insignificant.

[Recliner]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Certes

Post by Tweed

Post by Certes

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Can you get to Elephant and Castle with same-platform changes at smaller
stations, then take a C10 bus? I've never done this, and it may involve
more walking than your original ideas. A short taxi ride may be best.

Black cab for the London bit?

Yes, that was the idea: a cab from King's Cross if the budget permits.
The convoluted routes above assume that only public transport is used.

I try to keep the taxi cost down to a minimum. The incremental cost of
a travelcard is insignificant.

If you just use buses, you shouldn't need a travelcard at all. Assuming you don't get free bus travel, the bus fare in
each direction would be £1.75.

[Sam Wilson]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.

Interesting. When I had what was diagnosed as plantar fasciitis one of the
characteristic symptoms was that movement was fine except after resting for
a period. I’d come in from some activity, sit in an armchair for 10
minutes and then the soles of my feet hurt for a few minutes when I got and
started walking again. It sounds like your symptoms may be different?

Sam

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Post by Sam Wilson

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.

Interesting. When I had what was diagnosed as plantar fasciitis one of the
characteristic symptoms was that movement was fine except after resting for
a period. I'd come in from some activity, sit in an armchair for 10
minutes and then the soles of my feet hurt for a few minutes when I got and
started walking again. It sounds like your symptoms may be different?

Yes, it does seem to be one of those ailments that affect different
people in different ways. Certainly the plethora of exercises and other
solutions suggests it isn't fully understood, yet!

So, the first time I had it, it was "classic" - most painful first
thing but faded quickly. This time, about a decade later, it becomes
noticeable when driving and when walking. The day after a lot of
walking and then sleeping it is back to "classic" but then becomes less
so in the following days

[Sam Wilson]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Sam Wilson

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.

Interesting. When I had what was diagnosed as plantar fasciitis one of the
characteristic symptoms was that movement was fine except after resting for
a period. I'd come in from some activity, sit in an armchair for 10
minutes and then the soles of my feet hurt for a few minutes when I got and
started walking again. It sounds like your symptoms may be different?

Yes, it does seem to be one of those ailments that affect different
people in different ways. Certainly the plethora of exercises and other
solutions suggests it isn't fully understood, yet!

I was told I needed orthotic supports; I got some but then found a number
of alternative remedies. One was “orthotic supports don’t work you need to
do our exercises”. Another was “orthotics and exercises don’t work, click
here for the only remedy that does!” I didn’t click. It got better
anyway.

A family member was prescribed exercises with a baked bean tin.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
So, the first time I had it, it was "classic" - most painful first
thing but faded quickly. This time, about a decade later, it becomes
noticeable when driving and when walking. The day after a lot of
walking and then sleeping it is back to "classic" but then becomes less
so in the following days

Thank you. Interesting to find out more.

Sam

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Sam Wilson
I was told I needed orthotic supports; I got some but then found a number
of alternative remedies. One was “orthotic supports don’t work you need to
do our exercises”. Another was “orthotics and exercises don’t work, click
here for the only remedy that does!” I didn’t click. It got better
anyway.
A family member was prescribed exercises with a baked bean tin.

You can tell I'm in Surrey, here they recommend Le Creuset saucepans for
exercise!

[Sam Wilson]

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Sam Wilson
I was told I needed orthotic supports; I got some but then found a number
of alternative remedies. One was “orthotic supports don’t work you need to
do our exercises”. Another was “orthotics and exercises don’t work, click
here for the only remedy that does!” I didn’t click. It got better
anyway.
A family member was prescribed exercises with a baked bean tin.

You can tell I'm in Surrey, here they recommend Le Creuset saucepans for
exercise!

It must be terrible to have been kidnapped and forced to live a life of
luxury.

Sam

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Sam Wilson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Sam Wilson
I was told I needed orthotic supports; I got some but then found a number
of alternative remedies. One was “orthotic supports don’t work you need to
do our exercises”. Another was “orthotics and exercises don’t work, click
here for the only remedy that does!” I didn’t click. It got better
anyway.
A family member was prescribed exercises with a baked bean tin.

You can tell I'm in Surrey, here they recommend Le Creuset saucepans for
exercise!

It must be terrible to have been kidnapped and forced to live a life of
luxury.

It's a struggle but I'm coping :-)

[Recliner]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.

Or, if you can get a train that stops at Finsbury Park, catch the Victoria
Line there?

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Do you have an Uber account? It would be cheaper than a black cab.

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.

the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.

Or, if you can get a train that stops at Finsbury Park, catch the Victoria
Line there?

That sort of works but changing at Ely from the fast or semi-fasts to
the stoppers can sometimes be cross-platform but is often platform 8 to
platform 2

[Recliner]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.
the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

I assume you have the right phone apps to see what buses are due to arrive, and when, and can dynamically re-plan your
route based on the actual buses running?

You can also view the timetables for the buses you intend to take.

[Bevan Price]

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.
the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

I assume you have the right phone apps to see what buses are due to arrive, and when, and can dynamically re-plan your
route based on the actual buses running?
You can also view the timetables for the buses you intend to take.

For example - here:
https://bustimes.org/regions/L

It takes a little practice to navigate, but site includes links to
timetables and approximate location of buses on each route. (There can
be a brief time lapse between position in map & current location.)

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Bevan Price

On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:19:09 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.
the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

I assume you have the right phone apps to see what buses are due to
arrive, and when, and can dynamically re-plan your
route based on the actual buses running?
You can also view the timetables for the buses you intend to take.

https://bustimes.org/regions/L
It takes a little practice to navigate, but site includes links to
timetables and approximate location of buses on each route. (There can
be a brief time lapse between position in map & current location.)

They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

[Charles Ellson]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:47:18 +0000, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bevan Price

On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:19:09 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Recliner

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.
the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

I assume you have the right phone apps to see what buses are due to
arrive, and when, and can dynamically re-plan your
route based on the actual buses running?
You can also view the timetables for the buses you intend to take.

https://bustimes.org/regions/L
It takes a little practice to navigate, but site includes links to
timetables and approximate location of buses on each route. (There can
be a brief time lapse between position in map & current location.)

They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

Also watch out for a bus that stays x minutes away for some time. It
will usually be sitting at a starting point live on the system (IME
they don't usually show until they are due to leave) but not yet due
to leave.

[Roland Perry]

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall
They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

Also watch out for a bus that stays x minutes away for some time. It
will usually be sitting at a starting point live on the system (IME
they don't usually show until they are due to leave) but not yet due
to leave.

Hammersmith bus station can be confusing. They park up on the opposite
side of the road, then when due, drive an entire circle of the site to
align with the boarding points.

[Recliner]

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall
They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

Also watch out for a bus that stays x minutes away for some time. It
will usually be sitting at a starting point live on the system (IME
they don't usually show until they are due to leave) but not yet due
to leave.

Hammersmith bus station can be confusing. They park up on the opposite
side of the road, then when due, drive an entire circle of the site to
align with the boarding points.

Yes, and to add to the confusion, it’s in two parts. Finding the right stop
for your particular bus number can be tricky.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Recliner

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall
They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

Also watch out for a bus that stays x minutes away for some time. It
will usually be sitting at a starting point live on the system (IME
they don't usually show until they are due to leave) but not yet due
to leave.

Hammersmith bus station can be confusing. They park up on the opposite
side of the road, then when due, drive an entire circle of the site to
align with the boarding points.

Yes, and to add to the confusion, it’s in two parts. Finding the right stop
for your particular bus number can be tricky.

Hasn't changed much then, I haven't had to use it for about 30 years and
it was confusing then,

[Recliner]

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Recliner

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall
They appear to poll the buses about once a minute. Not unusual for a bus
not to respond for a few minutes and then apparently jumping forward on
the route.

Also watch out for a bus that stays x minutes away for some time. It
will usually be sitting at a starting point live on the system (IME
they don't usually show until they are due to leave) but not yet due
to leave.

Hammersmith bus station can be confusing. They park up on the opposite
side of the road, then when due, drive an entire circle of the site to
align with the boarding points.

Yes, and to add to the confusion, it’s in two parts. Finding the right stop
for your particular bus number can be tricky.

Hasn't changed much then, I haven't had to use it for about 30 years and
it was confusing then,

I assume it dates back at least as far as the rebuilding of the Tube station. You can see the two parts, on either side
of the Tube station:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6aiybVRhPxFKUYZG8

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

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Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.

Yes, the TfL Journey Planner recommends the 88 bus followed by the 91 for
the least walking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.

If you choose that option, make sure you use the old route to the Victoria
Line, from the front of the station. But I think the all-bus route needs
less walking, takes no longer, is step-free and costs less (or nothing).

Yes, the surface and down into the Victoria line works going but, on
the return, you have to walk the length of the train to get to the
"Euston Road" exit.
the bus route on a good day, looks bestest. But standing at a stop for
while is as bad as walking. I ended up a few weeks ago on Embankment
waiting for an hour

I assume you have the right phone apps to see what buses are due to arrive, and when, and can dynamically re-plan your
route based on the actual buses running?
You can also view the timetables for the buses you intend to take.

Yes, I have TFL Go, and others. But that doesn't help when TFL are busy
cancelling buses just as they arrive at my stop. This was a day when
Trafalgar Square was gridlocked so there were turning most buses early.

[John]

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:48:23 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Any thoughts on Ely to Cambridge, Cambridge to Tottenham Hale,
Victoria line to Vauxhall, 88 bus from there.

I do not know about the route from Vauxhall tube to the bus station
and TfL Journey Planner gives weird routing from TOM to Vauxhall bus
station.

[John]

Post by John
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:48:23 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Any thoughts on Ely to Cambridge, Cambridge to Tottenham Hale,
Victoria line to Vauxhall, 88 bus from there.
I do not know about the route from Vauxhall tube to the bus station
and TfL Journey Planner gives weird routing from TOM to Vauxhall bus
station.

So I took the scenic route when I went out this morning.

At Tottenham Hale there is a bridge at the front of the train from the
South-bound platform towards the Victoria line. There is an escalator
up to the bridge but about 30 steps down to the North=bound platform.
From there about 20m to the gateline, then about 6 steps up to the LU
ticket hall.
On the Victoria line there is a lift by the gateline to the very back
of the South-bound platform.
At Vauxhall there is an escalator from near the back of the train to
the ticket hall, or a lift from somewhere near the front of the train.
From the ticket hall there are about 30 steps up to street level and
the stop for the 88 is about 25m away on the level.

On return to Tottenham Hale you need to pass through one of the
connecting passages to the South-bound platform to access the lift

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Post by John

Post by John
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:48:23 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Any thoughts on Ely to Cambridge, Cambridge to Tottenham Hale,
Victoria line to Vauxhall, 88 bus from there.
I do not know about the route from Vauxhall tube to the bus station
and TfL Journey Planner gives weird routing from TOM to Vauxhall bus
station.

So I took the scenic route when I went out this morning.
At Tottenham Hale there is a bridge at the front of the train from the
South-bound platform towards the Victoria line. There is an escalator
up to the bridge but about 30 steps down to the North=bound platform.
From there about 20m to the gateline, then about 6 steps up to the LU
ticket hall.
On the Victoria line there is a lift by the gateline to the very back
of the South-bound platform.
At Vauxhall there is an escalator from near the back of the train to
the ticket hall, or a lift from somewhere near the front of the train.
From the ticket hall there are about 30 steps up to street level and
the stop for the 88 is about 25m away on the level.
On return to Tottenham Hale you need to pass through one of the
connecting passages to the South-bound platform to access the lift

Super! That's very helpful. Thanks

[Coffee]

Post by John
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:48:23 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Any thoughts on Ely to Cambridge, Cambridge to Tottenham Hale,
Victoria line to Vauxhall, 88 bus from there.
I do not know about the route from Vauxhall tube to the bus station
and TfL Journey Planner gives weird routing from TOM to Vauxhall bus
station.

Network Rail provide Customer Assistance buggies at their London main
line railway stations complete with chauffeurs from the nearest train
door on your service. Your chauffeur will know the closest place he can
take you for your forward transportation.

[Recliner]

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Post by John
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:48:23 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria, apart from driving all
the way, what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

Any thoughts on Ely to Cambridge, Cambridge to Tottenham Hale,
Victoria line to Vauxhall, 88 bus from there.
I do not know about the route from Vauxhall tube to the bus station
and TfL Journey Planner gives weird routing from TOM to Vauxhall bus
station.

Network Rail provide Customer Assistance buggies at their London main
line railway stations complete with chauffeurs from the nearest train
door on your service. Your chauffeur will know the closest place he can
take you for your forward transportation.

That sounds like a good idea! It’s quite a long walk from the KGX suburban
platforms to the Euston Road bus stops.

[Roland Perry]

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria,

The Home Office!

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
apart from driving all the way,

That won't work, as they don't have visitor parking.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?

That bit of Westminster is a well known black hole for public transport.
Without looking it up, I'd suggest the final-mile by bus, perhaps from
Blackfriars, if that's on the route.

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
I am currently suffering from plantar fasciitis that makes walking and,
indeed, also standing for a long time, rather painful.
So, trying to travel the shortest on foot.
Currently my best working hypothesis is actually taking a bus from
Grays Inn Road and changing to the 88 at Trafalgar Square.
Another thought was Victoria Line to Pimlico and then the C10.
But that still needs some thought about navigating the length of the
train and also King's Cross underground station which can be quite a
walk.
I also though about Cross Country to Stansted Airport and then change
to Stansted Express and changing at Tottenham Hale but then going from
the front of the Stansted Express to the Victoria Line platform at
Tottenham Hale might also be a bit of a stroll.
So, please all chip in with your thoughts

[Rupert Moss-Eccardt]

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
Dear combined minds of uk.railway,
If I wanted to get from the car park at Ely station to the junction of
Horseferry Road and Marsham Street in Victoria,

The Home Office!

Yes a bit of the building is the Home Office but more of it is other
parts like the MHCLG, the ONS, DEFRA and some other bits and bobs,
including the MPS.

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
apart from driving all the way,

That won't work, as they don't have visitor parking.

There are some associated parking spaces very nearby but you need to
book months ahead.

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Rupert Moss-Eccardt
what route should I follow, including lifts and escalators,
etc, should I follow to keep the number of steps down to a minimum.
And, also, the return journey, if possible, please?

That bit of Westminster is a well known black hole for public transport.
Without looking it up, I'd suggest the final-mile by bus, perhaps from
Blackfriars, if that's on the route.