Walking from Waterloo to Waterloo East

[Chris Holmes]

Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

[Tim Watts]

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

They are most definately joined with a walkway but I cannot say how long
it's been there.

Ironically it is easier to get into East via the main station than it is for
the unititiated to find the small and not very well signed direct entrance.

[Peter Masson]

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

The traditional exit from Waterloo East was always direct to Waterloo Main,
though you used to go down a ramp from the footbridge and cross the service
road which surrounds Waterloo Main. Some time ago (more than 2 years) the
ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges the service road and
you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an escalator or a lift.

You may have gone down the stairs to Sandell Street (the Union Jack Club
exit), or possibly used the exit into Southwark LUL station.

http://nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/WAE/plan.html

Peter

[m***@gmail.com]

"Chris Holmes" wrote in message
Some time ago (more than 2 years) the
ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges the service road and
you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an escalator or a lift.

According to Kent Rail, the high level walkway was installed in the early 1990s:

http://www.kentrail.org.uk/waterloo_east2.htm

You may have gone down the stairs to Sandell Street (the Union Jack Club
exit), or possibly used the exit into Southwark LUL station.

There must have a been a period during the high level route construction when there was no direct link to Waterloo Main with all interchanging passengers being forced to exit to street level.

[Stephen Furley]

"Chris Holmes" wrote in message
Some time ago (more than 2 years) the
ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges the service road and
you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an escalator or a lift.

According to Kent Rail, the high level walkway was installed in the early
1990s:

http://www.kentrail.org.uk/waterloo_east2.htm

You may have gone down the stairs to Sandell Street (the Union Jack Club
exit), or possibly used the exit into Southwark LUL station.

There must have a been a period during the high level route construction
when there was no direct link to Waterloo Main with all interchanging
passengers being forced to exit to street level.
--
Mark


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When I started work I had to go to County Hall for some reason; I think it
may have been for a medical examination. The GLC provided a map showing how
to get there, which still showed the station as 'Waterloo Junction'. This
was in 1974!

[tim.....]

Post by m***@gmail.com

"Chris Holmes" wrote in message
Some time ago (more than 2 years) the
ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges the service road and
you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an escalator or a lift.

http://www.kentrail.org.uk/waterloo_east2.htm

That must have been a replacement bridge, I'm sure that there was one there
before that

tim

[The Iron Jelloid]

"Chris Holmes" wrote in message news:69169a76-5518-47f3-a023-b778c6ca8

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

The traditional exit from Waterloo East was always direct to Waterloo
Main, though you used to go down a ramp from the footbridge and cross
the service road which surrounds Waterloo Main. Some time ago (more
than 2 years) the ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges
the service road and you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an
escalator or a lift.
You may have gone down the stairs to Sandell Street (the Union Jack
Club exit), or possibly used the exit into Southwark LUL station.
http://nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/WAE/plan.html

I remember using a bridge from Waterloo to Waterloo East many years ago
(back in the 80s), that went direct from one station to the other. I
gather from things I read later on, it had once actually been railway
(though may have misunderstood that point - this was more than a decade
since I'd last done it). Is that the same bridge that is there now?

[Stephen Furley]

"Chris Holmes" wrote in message news:69169a76-5518-47f3-a023-b778c6ca8

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

The traditional exit from Waterloo East was always direct to Waterloo
Main, though you used to go down a ramp from the footbridge and cross
the service road which surrounds Waterloo Main. Some time ago (more
than 2 years) the ramp was replaced by a high level route which bridges
the service road and you go down to the Main concourse by stairs, an
escalator or a lift.
You may have gone down the stairs to Sandell Street (the Union Jack
Club exit), or possibly used the exit into Southwark LUL station.
http://nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/WAE/plan.html

I remember using a bridge from Waterloo to Waterloo East many years ago
(back in the 80s), that went direct from one station to the other. I
gather from things I read later on, it had once actually been railway
(though may have misunderstood that point - this was more than a decade
since I'd last done it). Is that the same bridge that is there now?
--
- The Iron Jelloid


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The old bridge is still there, and accessible from at least one end by
staff, but not by passengers. The new bridge is directly above it, maybe
five metres higher.

There was indeed a railway connection at one time; there is a quite
well-known picture of it; Used occasionally to get Queen Victoria to Windsor
I believe.

[Peter Masson]

Post by Stephen Furley
There was indeed a railway connection at one time; there is a quite
well-known picture of it; Used occasionally to get Queen Victoria to
Windsor I believe.

In 1877 Captain Warren, a director of the South Eastern Railway, was walking
along the junction line when he was struck and killed by an empty stock
train - one of the few instances of a railway director being killed by a
train. Another was Lord Herbert Vane-Tempest, Director of the Cambrian, who
was killed in the Abermule collision.

Peter

[Stephen Furley]

"Peter Masson" wrote in message news:***@bt.com...

In 1877 Captain Warren, a director of the South Eastern Railway, was walking
along the junction line when he was struck and killed by an empty stock
train - one of the few instances of a railway director being killed by a
train. Another was Lord Herbert Vane-Tempest, Director of the Cambrian, who
was killed in the Abermule collision.

Peter


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Do you know when the connecting line was removed?

[Peter Masson]

"Stephen Furley" wrote in message news:***@giganews.com...



"Peter Masson" wrote in message news:***@bt.com...

In 1877 Captain Warren, a director of the South Eastern Railway, was walking
along the junction line when he was struck and killed by an empty stock
train - one of the few instances of a railway director being killed by a
train. Another was Lord Herbert Vane-Tempest, Director of the Cambrian, who
was killed in the Abermule collision.

Peter


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Do you know when the connecting line was removed?
March 1911, though part of it remained as a siding at the Waterloo East end
until 1925

Peter

[Matt Forbes]

Post by Stephen Furley
The old bridge is still there, and accessible from at least one end by
staff, but not by passengers. The new bridge is directly above it, maybe
five metres higher.

Far the best picture to illustrate this, but have a look at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjf-southsea/8318472223/in/photostream

On the far right, the original rail connection remains in place (the red metal structure spanning Waterloo Road), and the "new" passenger walkway is the silver/grey 'tube' above it.

Regards,

Matt

[Stephen Furley]

Post by Stephen Furley
The old bridge is still there, and accessible from at least one end by
staff, but not by passengers. The new bridge is directly above it, maybe
five metres higher.

Far the best picture to illustrate this, but have a look at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjf-southsea/8318472223/in/photostream

On the far right, the original rail connection remains in place (the red
metal structure spanning Waterloo Road), and the "new" passenger walkway is
the silver/grey 'tube' above it.

Regards,

Matt

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The last time I looked at it the old bridge still seemed to be used as
storage space of some sort.

[Tony Dragon]

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

I can't remember a time when the two were not connected by a walkway,
you went up steps (later an escalator) from the middle of the Waterloo
concourse, then down ramps to platforms a-d.

[Stephen Furley]

Post by Chris Holmes
Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in
Waterloo Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

I can't remember a time when the two were not connected by a walkway,
you went up steps (later an escalator) from the middle of the Waterloo
concourse, then down ramps to platforms a-d.

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I seem to remember that the old bridge did not reach the main station
concourse; you had to cross a road on the level, and the bridge was on the
other side of it.

[Denis McMahon]

Post by Tony Dragon

Came out of Waterloo East yesterday morning and found I was in Waterloo
Main Line Station.
I remember last time I used this pair of stations it was about a ten
minute walk out in the overworld.
Have they recently been joined together with a walkway? or was I just
ill informed last time (approx 2 years ago).

I can't remember a time when the two were not connected by a walkway,
you went up steps (later an escalator) from the middle of the Waterloo
concourse, then down ramps to platforms a-d.

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Post by Tony Dragon
I seem to remember that the old bridge did not reach the main station
concourse; you had to cross a road on the level, and the bridge was on
the other side of it.

Would that road be the taxi / service road on the main station forecourt?

http://goo.gl/maps/IMvq3

The old bridge is hidden behind hoardings / scaffolding / containers on
the left of the image. The silver tube walkway can be seen above the
concourse roof.

This image shows the bridges from another road below:

http://goo.gl/maps/Oow7P

The new silvery tubular walkway above the old red track carrying and
later track level connection, and in the background, blue bridge carrying
working lines from East towards CX

The new walkway was certainly in place in the early 90s when I was
visiting friends at Thamesmead and catching services from East to Abbey
Wood and back.