Post by TweedPost by Roland PerryPost by TweedPost by Roland PerryPost by TweedPost by Roland PerryPost by TweedPost by Roland PerryPost by M***@dastardlyhq.comOn Sun, 29 Dec 2024 16:32:25 +0000
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Post by Roland PerryPost by M***@dastardlyhq.comOn Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:34:26 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Roland PerryMaybe so, but not as far as your postings here suggest.
Err, Roland, you just replied to your own insult. Are you
you’re OK?
I'm not convinced he's firing on all cylinders right now. As it
is he seems to
be arguing against the existence of technology thats been around
for decades.
There you again - wrong end of stick and waving it around loudly.
No, you're just confused and making a complete fool of yourself.
You're arguing
against tech that already exists and has been in place for decades.
Post by Roland PerryIt's not the *technology* which matters, it's the
*implementation* of the technology.
Solved problem.
OK, so tell me where I can find an EV charger with a £25 market
trader gadget duck-taped on the side?
That's not the solution.
I know, but it's what Muttley was implying should be done.
No, I didn't, you did.
Oh dear, are you really trying to deny you were to person who first
introduced the idea of the market-stall-holder's gadget.
Post by M***@dastardlyhq.comBut I doubt your senile brains remembers how you moved the goalposts
now anyway.
We all know that throwing insults is by far the best way to win ^H^H^H
lose argument.
Muttley raised the point that if even a market stall holder could take
cards it should not be beyond the wit of man for EV charge points to do
likewise. At no point did he suggest they use the same
equipment. That is
an invention by yourself.
Not at all. I'm pointing out that the "wit of market stall man" is a
completely different situation to the "wit of EV charger man". You can't
just say "Amazon can deliver things next day, so why can't I get my
luggage delivered by LNER the next day".
I disagree. Acceptance of cards has gone from being the realm of major
retailers
I was a mom-and-pop retailer taking cards in the late 70's.
Post by Tweedvia a very few tightly controlled channels to being almost
ubiquitous. Someone or some organisation claiming that card acceptance
could not be done would be flying in the face of today’s reality.
You are still arguing about the availability of merchant services (and I
agree with what you say, although many solutions have eye-watering
commissions). And of course, acceptance of Amex is rotting away. I never
did get GTR to say whether or not they expected their TVMs** to accept
it contactless. ["Do your TVMs take contactless Amex", "We take major
credit cards", "Do you consider Amex to be a major credit card"
<silence>].
I'm discussing the way the hardware can be deployed in he field, which
is a completely different kettle of worms.
** This was when faced an example which didn't, but was this because the
hardware was broken in some way, or did they not implement it.
Deploying card reader hardware in the field is a solved problem. It’s
solved in multiple ways these days. Your attempt to find obscure edge cases
is akin to stating that houses can’t have an electricity supply because a
remote farm isn’t connected to the grid.
Sadly it's not a solved problem, because over and over again I see
deployments of (eg) EV Chargers which involve digging up hundreds of
yards of car park tarmac, and even then wait six months for the
electricity company to dig up the road outside to connect them up. A
typical place for such chargers is also the ground floor of multi-story
car parks, which far too often are mobile phone not-spots.
Post by TweedAs to mobile not spots, it must be strange out your way.
Why? I get this problem *all* the time. It's not a fairly story that
outside my friend's house, three miles from the Cambridge Science Park,
there's no O2 signal. It's not a fairy story that in the Ship Lane Car
Park on the Ely riverside, there's no O2 signal. Local Facebook groups
have not-spots as a perennial topic of discussion.
Post by TweedThe only place I’ve not been able to receive a signal (other than
obvious places such as tunnels) of late has been a corner of Arran.
Having a phone that can connect to both Vodafone and EE does help though.
In the sense of dual-SIM I suppose (although some such phones won't
auto-roam data between them, and only do voice on the other unless you
go into "Settings"). Then there's Wifi-calling which as long as your
phone, network and SIM *all* support it, comes to the rescue in
otherwise very dodgy locations.
Meanwhile, in East Cambs there's a mast sharing agreement between O2 and
Vodafone, so if you can't get one (either a shadow or downtime), you
probably can't get the other.
Post by TweedWith reference to UK railways I’ve found that EE has accelerated away from
Vodafone in terms of performance. By this I mean that in major footfall
areas such as St Pancras, Vodafone offers a signal but no throughput, a
sign of heavy cell site congestion.
Or a sign it's been badly set up. There's absolutely no reason (see
"solved problem") to flood a place like St Pancras with Picocells, if
there's the demand for connectivity.
Congested cell and badly set up are basically the same thing.
No they aren't. Badly setting up an installation at a major venue like
St Pancras includes decisions not to deploy sufficient cells.
Post by TweedEE appear to have invested in Pico cells, Vodafone have not. My
feeling is that Vodafone have built a network that was adequate for
voice and low bandwidth data (web pages, email etc) but are now swamped
by people downloading video. I also suspect that EE users are
benefiting from the emergency services network rollout.
Yes, that's been in the pipeline for years (and years and years).
Post by TweedFor instance, EE works in the Clyde Tunnel and on most of
the Glasgow Subway, whereas Vodafone does not. (It ought to work in the
domestic tunnels of HS1 in as much as you get signal, but it didn’t move
data when I tried it a couple of months ago. As though they forgot to plug
the other end in). There’s been an article in the Times bemoaning the
inadequacy of Eurostar in train WiFi. I don’t see why folk bother with it.
It would have been useful in the early days of e* because there was
virtually no cellphone coverage in Kent outside the M25. Thalys had
satellite based wifi, but of course that didn't work in the tunnels
under Schiphol, and they couldn't be bothered to dual-home it with a
leaky feeder.
Post by TweedMy iPad using EE worked just fine for the whole trip between StP and
Brussels, bar the aforementioned tunnels. Got a good 4 to 10 Mbit/sec in
the undersea tunnel.
The undersea tunnel was an early success, with one country's operator
wiring it for northbound and the other southbound. Although of course
when roaming cost money, you be paying dearly for one or the other.
Post by TweedAs to the phone switching between sims, the iPhone you appear to constantly
dismiss just works.
I dismiss the iPhone not because of technology, but marketing. If other
people are prepared to spend 3x the build cost on a bit of bling to
impress the neighbours, so be it.
Post by TweedMine is set up to use the other sim automatically if it
can’t shift data on the primary sim.
Some Android phones can do that too.
Post by TweedIt will accept incoming voice calls on either.
All dual SIM phone will do that. The first I bought [new!] the first SIM
did 3G data and voice, but the second SIM only 2g voice {&SMS
obviously}. But it solved a problem of being able to keep in touch.
Post by TweedOutgoing voice sim is selectable when you place the call (or indeed
when sending an SMS). Similarly WiFi calling just works.
Wifi calling had a bit of a rocky start, but seems to be stable
technology. Not always a silver bullet. My invalid friend who lives
in a not-spot fifteen miles outside the M25 and three miles from the
County Town, has all kinds of issues with carers being unable to use
their phones, and not allowed by their IT people to set up wifi calling.
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Roland Perry