Another TGV crash.

[tolly57]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

[Brian Robertson]

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

So things are not so bright the other side of the channel as some may think.

"The 2013 crash highlighted the decaying state of France's rail network,
with an official report blaming underinvestment and poor maintenance for
the disaster."

[Recliner]

Post by Brian Robertson

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

So things are not so bright the other side of the channel as some may think.
"The 2013 crash highlighted the decaying state of France's rail network,
with an official report blaming underinvestment and poor maintenance for the disaster."

This crash obviously happened off the excellent LGV network. I don't think
it's any secret that the neglected French classic network is decaying. We
already knew that the UK's railways were just about the safest in the
world.

[Brian Robertson]

Post by Recliner

Post by Brian Robertson

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

So things are not so bright the other side of the channel as some may think.
"The 2013 crash highlighted the decaying state of France's rail network,
with an official report blaming underinvestment and poor maintenance for the disaster."

This crash obviously happened off the excellent LGV network. I don't think
it's any secret that the neglected French classic network is decaying. We
already knew that the UK's railways were just about the safest in the
world.

Well, no... Just as the average Brit on holiday in Shagaluf doesn't know
much about traditional Spain, so the average Brit who travels on the LGV
network doesn't know much about what is going on elsewhere.

[iMark]

tolly57 <***@sky.com> wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-in
cluding-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

Sound like a driver error to me on the part of the driver of the TER.
That a TGV is involved is irrelavent when the TGV is running on the
classic network.
There could of course have been a signalling error, but even with a
decaying network these are extremely rare.

[Sam Wilson]

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-in
cluding-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html
Sound like a driver error to me on the part of the driver of the TER.
That a TGV is involved is irrelavent when the TGV is running on the
classic network.
There could of course have been a signalling error, but even with a
decaying network these are extremely rare.

A couple of photos at <http://www.thelocal.fr/20140717/tgv-cras-france>
and reports that faulty signalling may well have been involved. It maya
be based on a report in French at
<http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/07/17/denguin-64-collision-entre-un-tgv-et-u
n-ter-1618033-4344.php> with more photos, but I French isn't good enough
to skim it quickly and I don't have time for Google translate just now.

Sam

[iMark]

Post by Sam Wilson

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-in
cluding-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html
Sound like a driver error to me on the part of the driver of the TER.
That a TGV is involved is irrelavent when the TGV is running on the
classic network.
There could of course have been a signalling error, but even with a
decaying network these are extremely rare.

A couple of photos at <http://www.thelocal.fr/20140717/tgv-cras-france>
and reports that faulty signalling may well have been involved. It maya
be based on a report in French at
<http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/07/17/denguin-64-collision-entre-un-tgv-et-u
n-ter-1618033-4344.php> with more photos, but I French isn't good enough
to skim it quickly and I don't have time for Google translate just now.

Apparently they were doing work on the signalling system.

http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/07/18/collision-ferroviaire-en-bearn-un-accident-du-a-un-feu-reste-rouge-1618843-4107.php

Here's my quick translation:

The signalling system of the track near Pau where a collisian between
two trains took place on Thursday caused 40 people to have injuries of
whom two are still in a bad state was being repaired. This was said by
the State Secretary of Transport Frédéric Cuvillier while announcing
revisions "across the network".
"You have to understand that the signalling system was being repaired.
It is impossible to rule out or confirm any causality between the
repairs and the accident" he stated to the press on Thursday. "The
repair works seem to have been disturbed and weren't succesful" he added
while talking to Europe 1 on Friday.

According to Alain Krakovitch, the Director General of SNCF, who was
standing next to the Secretary of State, the accident may have been
caused by a signal that was showing permanent red, necessitating the
stopping of all trains.
"When a signal keeps showing red, it is necessary to take action
immediately en slow down, which was done by the TGV but not the TER. Why
did this happen? What did the driver of the TER see? Why did he think he
could continue driving at normal speed while the TGV had slowed down?
That is something the inquest will have to tell us", he explained.
"This accident is unique, unheard of and exceptional" stated Frédéric
Cuvillier, when asked why the TGV "had run at reduced speed because of
the signalling and the TER that passed over the same track a couple of
minutes later had not."
"Was there a technical error, made worse by human error? Noone can tell.
The inquest, which was started immediately by BEATT, the independent
organisation, will have to give the answers, augmented by the inquest
done by SNCV as well as the judicial inquest", Frédéric Cuvillier added.
It was stressed that the accident was "very different to Brétigny"
(Essone), an accident that happened almost a year ago on July 12 2013
where 7 people lost their lives but where the track was not the cause of
the problem.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by iMark
Apparently they were doing work on the signalling system.

Here are a series of picture:

http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/07/18/en-images-40-blesses-dans-la-collision-entre-deux-trains-en-bearn-1618732-4344.php

Nasty rear-ender by the looks of it. Rear nose of the TGV looks badly damaged as it crumpled as designed to absorb impact I assume, whilst the TER front remains remarkably intact.

[Recliner]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by iMark
Apparently they were doing work on the signalling system.

http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/07/18/en-images-40-blesses-dans-la-collision-entre-deux-trains-en-bearn-1618732-4344.php
Nasty rear-ender by the looks of it. Rear nose of the TGV looks badly
damaged as it crumpled as designed to absorb impact I assume, whilst the
TER front remains remarkably intact.

It did occur to me that the casualty count in this low speed collision was
reduced by the fact that one train was a TGV, with a long crumple-zone
power car with no passengers.

[furnessvale]

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.

Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

George

[Graeme Wall]

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

[Charles Ellson]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

[Bob Martin]

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

[Railsigns.uk]

Post by Bob Martin
I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

I wouldn't take that lying down.

[Recliner]

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

Probably written by a young female journo.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

[Charles Ellson]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.

OTOH prostate v. prostrate IME seems to be a common human error
without need of machine assistance. A variation encountered at work in
my apprentice days was an older member of staff complaining that "you
can see her public hairs" when confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in
one of the tabloid comics.

[Recliner]

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.
OTOH prostate v. prostrate IME seems to be a common human error
without need of machine assistance. A variation encountered at work in
my apprentice days was an older member of staff complaining that "you
can see her public hairs" when confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in
one of the tabloid comics.

Well, they were on public display...

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.

That was more common than you might think.

[Charles Ellson]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:16:37 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.

That was more common than you might think.

Ah, yes. I see the Torygraph and the New York Times are among those
who have had similar trouble.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.
OTOH prostate v. prostrate IME seems to be a common human error
without need of machine assistance. A variation encountered at work in
my apprentice days was an older member of staff complaining that "you
can see her public hairs" when confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in
one of the tabloid comics.

Complaining?

[Charles Ellson]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:21:35 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:41 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Bob Martin

Post by tolly57

Post by Charles Ellson
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:55:31 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-

crash-south-west-France.html

Post by Charles Ellson

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by furnessvale
One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.

More likely part of the "We allow idiots to enter things on Ceefax as
nobody ever watches it these days"

Ceefax (other than p.888) closed down on BBC domestic services in
2012; it continued on BFBS but that now seems to have gone altogether
(p.888 was never used IIRC). The current interactive services seem to
be more verbose and closer to what goes out on television/radio but
still with the usual errors when the news is too fresh.

Stuff on Ceefax was always relegated to the office junior in the
newsroom as it was disdained by journalists even when it was reasonably
well used. With the advent of internet websites it is even less important.

I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

The wonders of spill chuckers!

I'm still trying to work out which context the spill-chucker was set
to when the subtitles in a news report about CERN made an unfortunate
mistake with the middle word in Large Hadron Collider.
OTOH prostate v. prostrate IME seems to be a common human error
without need of machine assistance. A variation encountered at work in
my apprentice days was an older member of staff complaining that "you
can see her public hairs" when confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in
one of the tabloid comics.

Complaining?

Harry was a gentleman unlike the younger ne'er-do-wells around him.

[Roland Perry]

A variation encountered at work in my apprentice days was an older
member of staff complaining that "you can see her public hairs" when
confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in one of the tabloid comics.

I have caught numerous typos from colleagues in documents either almost
or recently posted: "pubic policy" when they meant "public policy".

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Roland Perry

A variation encountered at work in my apprentice days was an older
member of staff complaining that "you can see her public hairs" when
confronted by a badly-airbrushed p.3 in one of the tabloid comics.

I have caught numerous typos from colleagues in documents either almost
or recently posted: "pubic policy" when they meant "public policy".

What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

[Railsigns.uk]

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Railsigns.uk"

Post by Railsigns.uk

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

A Home of Your Own.

It was actually Ronnie Barker, not Eric Sykes.

The mason (not the kind Joe Stirling is obsessed with) who couldn't
spell was Bernard Cribbins.

It's still funny today.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Railsigns.uk"

Post by Railsigns.uk

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

A Home of Your Own.
It was actually Ronnie Barker, not Eric Sykes.
The mason (not the kind Joe Stirling is obsessed with) who couldn't
spell was Bernard Cribbins.
http://youtu.be/osj1rXISQiA
It's still funny today.

Well that'll waste 40 minutes :-)

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:10:44 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Railsigns.uk"

Post by Railsigns.uk

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

A Home of Your Own.
It was actually Ronnie Barker, not Eric Sykes.
The mason (not the kind Joe Stirling is obsessed with) who couldn't
spell was Bernard Cribbins.
http://youtu.be/osj1rXISQiA
It's still funny today.

Well that'll waste 40 minutes :-)

Trivia...

Bernard Cribbins played Doctor Who's companion in one of the 1960s
Hartnell era movies where the Doctor was actually played by Peter
Cushing, and then came back as a companion to David Tennant's Doctor.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:10:44 +0100, Graeme Wall

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Railsigns.uk"

Post by Railsigns.uk

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

A Home of Your Own.
It was actually Ronnie Barker, not Eric Sykes.
The mason (not the kind Joe Stirling is obsessed with) who couldn't
spell was Bernard Cribbins.
http://youtu.be/osj1rXISQiA
It's still funny today.

Well that'll waste 40 minutes :-)

Trivia...
Bernard Cribbins played Doctor Who's companion in one of the 1960s
Hartnell era movies where the Doctor was actually played by Peter
Cushing, and then came back as a companion to David Tennant's Doctor.

Daleks' Invasion of Earth 2150.

[Charles Ellson]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Railsigns.uk"

Post by Railsigns.uk

Post by Graeme Wall
What's the Eric Sykes silent film that culminates in a statue being
inscribed thus: "This erection was paid for by pubic subscription"?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

I'll rise to the challenge - "A Home of Your Own" ("Das Eigenheim" in
Germany) -
http://youtu.be/osj1rXISQiA
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058200/
"Wordless comedy about the trials and tribulations which abound when a
young couple attempt to build their dream home."
The film starts with a young couple not yet married examining the sign
telling them that new homes would be "erected immediately" and
finishes with them arriving at their new house along with three sprogs
and a fourth about to arrive.

although, looking at the cast list, Eric Sykes seems to be one of the
early-1960s comedy "usual suspects" who isn't in it.

P.S. Apparently the "number" is TW5 0SQ.
[http://www.wheatlandsestate.co.uk/past-present/4566255848]
Photos of the "monument" seem to be absent.

[Roland Perry]

Post by Bob Martin
I remember a Ceefax page about prostrate cancer ...
("prostrate" was used 6 times on the page).

Things like that are still happening. TV journalist to camera a couple
of days ago about news of the air crash in Ukraine "unravelling as we
speak". What she meant was "emerging" [I can't find an exact homonym].

[Brian Robertson]

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.
George

But did they add HS2 would probably be accident free if it went through
Middlesbrough?

[Recliner]

Post by furnessvale

Post by tolly57
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696396/17-injured-two-trains-including-high-speed-TGV-crash-south-west-France.html

One thing I did notice was that BBC ceefax(or whatever it is called now) was
reporting it as a high speed train crash AND specifically that the TGV
crashed into the local.
Probably part of the "lets stir things up against HS2" agenda.
George

But did they add HS2 would probably be accident free if it went through Middlesbrough?

It wouldn't matter, as the trains would be devoid of passengers.